Holy shit I can't believe you actually made a forum post lmao. Usually sending people to the forums with a blanket "go post about it on pluto.gg" makes them realize they don't care enough to make a forum post about it so big props for actually going through with it and making one.
I know this might seem like a VERY minor bone to pick, especially from an outsiders perspective, but this is something that has been going on for months and the fact that its still an issue is absolutely bothersome enough to justify a real conversation about it. Since February of this year people have been asking for their memes to stop being sporadically deleted with the entire reason for their removal always being that they were deemed to be a ~shitpost~. This VERY objective metric has allowed for over enforcement and the deletion of a metric fuck ton of memes just because someone does not think they are funny.
I loved the meme channel on the Pluto discord way back when, it was super populated with many users contributing images they found funny and wanted to share with others. Sure not every single image was funny to every single person, but I loved scrolling through and finding those gems that really got to me. If there was a meme that didn't click with me I did not delete it just because I thought it was low quality, looked bad, or I thought maybe other people wouldn't laugh at it. Since then the channel switched from #memes-no-nsfw-plz to the #reeeeeeee-room because a vocal minority was tired of seeing memes they did not find were up to their quality metric. Then a vocal minority decided #reeeeeeee-room was no longer the place for memes (which is true and valid as it should only have existed for gambling and :jubjubb:), so back to the meme channel it was. Unfortunately the memes still were not good enough for a vocal and powerful meme authority minority and as such the shameful #pluto-landfill was the born. It would make sense that you would be able to post all sorts of memes in a landfill, surely there would not be a hidden, objective, barrier to entry that determined if your meme was good enough to not be silently deleted (not for breaking TOS, or server rules, but just because it "looked bad" or "wasn't funny" and was therefore a "shitpost" that needed to be deleted). Unfortunately no, #pluto-landfill was still pillaged by the silent delete, memes were held to unrighteous standards, and judged not for the character of their hearts, but by how long they took to make, and whether or not they were made in MS paint.
As staff I really do want the discord to be a great place! I hope more than anything one day we can be a discord partnered server! I have always held myself to a standard where I can know if discord or even just random Pluto players were seeing who represents our community and how they interact with our members, they would see nice mature interactions and a wholesome community! I know that is not what this is about. This is something that has been happening since February! One skeleton meme or fast gif does not reflect poorly on the community!
The moderation in the meme channel right now is as follows.
If it is cropped porn, otherwise sexually suggestive, ear rape, or against discord TOS, the meme is deleted and the poster is informed that such memes are too edgy to exist in our public discord. This is fine and dandy.
If the meme is any way obscure, not funny enough for a broad audience, somehow irrelevant to surrounding memes, looks like it was made or drawn poorly, or its a gif without an obvious joke or punchline, its HEREBY A SHITPOST and Hound silently deletes it.
Of all the memes shared, a concerning number of memes end up in the second category and let me tell you it is really frustrating and disheartening! I love seeing the meme channel, I like sharing memes to it every now and then, and I hate seeing half the content be removed due to some vague opinions of one person determining it is not of high enough quality to be posted here. Keep in mind again this has been happening for MONTHS over multiple channels and with many people complaining about the vague and rampant usage of the hidden second ruling. Even with channel changes, Hound being told to play a less active role in the meme chats, clear guidelines being established and then ignored in favor of the powerfully vague "shitpost" category, so many good memes get silently deleted for seriously minor reasons!
Please get rid of this "50% of posts are shitposts" and "all shitposts must be deleted" ruling. If the post is sexually suggestive, i.e. cropped porn, or "made you click" videos, remove it and inform the user this is not allowed on our public discord. If the post is very clearly ear rape, remove the post and inform the user ear rape is not the funny content we are looking for in our public discord. If the post is against Discord TOS (pretty hard to do), delete the post, report it to Discord Trust & Safety, and either bad place or ban the account associated as is appropriate. If the only thing wrong is the post is that is not funny to you, looks low effort, you don't get it, seems irrelevant to you, or even if you just think most people won't laugh at it, don't delete it! It's a meme channel! Not everyone thinks every meme is funny, that's the point of these channels! Every time someone comes into our chat and shares something, they are doing it because its something they like or got a kick out of and they want someone else to experience that. Deleting their post for no good reason just feels like a big fuck you to the user. Very rarely does someone join a meme group chat and share a meme with intent to legitimately offend, we are just trying to share funny posts! Please don't rain on the parade just because you feel left out of a joke!
With all that being said, please consider giving post perms back to users who were booted from the channel for disobeying the "no shitposting" rule. I hope you can see how this vague enforcement has lead to a lot of frustration, and I don't see how banning people from the channel for disobeying a vague meritless rule seems fair. I fuckin love Sir Ummemelord's memes and I hope I can see them again, along with many other users who just stopped posting after their messages were deleted without notification when they were truly just trying to share something that made them laugh with their online pals.
I know this is not a serious issue, it's a meme chat after all, but please understand that I am speaking with sincerity and I hope you will all consider some of what I have said.